I don’t feel differently, but in that interview I did say that I reserve the right to change my mind after he takes office. I still believe in the rule of law in America, so I don’t think he’s targeting journalist per se. But I’m also not a journalist, so I don’t feel the same way about it. I mean, I do wonder if he’ll come after comedians next! I don’t know.

We were speaking earlier about how some comedians are embracing their roles as journalists or thought leaders. Do you think that has to do with audiences wanting to hear direct opinions instead of nuanced reporting?

I think part of it is that hot takes make clicks, so people are just trying to become hot take machines and not really doing journalism. And another part of it is that spoken mediums make information easier to disseminate than written mediums. Unfortunately, when you write something, people have to take the effort to read it, and it’s easier to listen to someone talk than having to read an article.

And then some of it also is that people want to hear news filtered through opinions that agree with them. If you’re looking for things that agree with your sensibilities that becomes information siloing, and then you don’t hear enough alternative opinions. Obviously it’s multifactorial, but I think those are some of the reasons that news is becoming a bit like two guys slouching on a sofa with a microphone just talking.

That’s what a news show often is now, you know what I mean? To me, it feels very lazy.